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a hangover. >> maybe without a hangover, watch out. colorado cough. >> praise the lord. praise the people, the people have spoken, so ♪ >> jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> nothing else to say. >> that's how we're going to end the show. >> erin burnett "outfront" >> erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- "outfront" next, the scandal that brought down david petraeus. we have new details about how fbi investigators stumbled on his affair and is the timing of his resignation add up? plus, who is paula broadwell? the woman at the center of the scandal? tonight, how she became so close with petraeus along with the warning signs that something may have been wrong. and an "outfront" investigation into complaints the red cross is not doing enough to help victims
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of sandy. are donations getting to the people who need them? let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. tonight, a rescisky affair. there are new questions about the affair that led cia director david petraeus to resign and when did he pose a national security risk. here's what we can tell you now. the affair came to light during an fbi investigation of so-called jealousy e-mail sent by paula broadwell to a woman in tampa named jill kelley. an official confirms to cnn -- to stop sending harassing e-mails to kelley, who along with her husband has known petraeus and their family for more than five years. that couple met the four star general when he was stationed at medil air force base in tampa.
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a description of the e-mails seems to validate what a friend of petraeus tells us, that petraeus felt broadwell had shown a possessiveness toward him. as to whether she gained any information during her relationship to petraeus, here's something we found. a speech she gave in october of 2006. here's what it had to say. >> had actually had taken a couple of libyan militia members and they think the attack was trying to get those back. still being vetted. >> and knowing about those prisoners being there in the first place, wasn't something you heard about on the news. how did she know? suzanne kelly is our intelligence correspondent and i know you've been reporting on this throughout the day. what are the concerns that broadwell had or has classified
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information? >> something like that is a perfect example of the problem. you don't really know what her source is on something like that and what she said about the cia holding prisoners in ben gghazi and that prompted the attack there, that's really a bombshell revelation right there. and so you have to wonder, is she gets the information from petraeus because she has better access to him or is it coming from somewhere else? that's the real nature of the problem is trying to figure out where information was coming from and that was one of the things that the fbi focused on early on in their information. did she have classified information and was it inappropriate and they ultimately found, she did not have information that would have warranted any legal action. >> paula, you know her and spoke with her, she told you she was writing another book about david
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david petraeus. what did you think when she told you she was writing a second book about him? >> well, we spoke at the security forum on the summer and she's very open about talking about her relationship with general petraeus in terms of the access that she had. the first book she had written and very much looking forward to writing the second book, which would be a larger story about his legacy. and we know from people who have worked closely with him in the past, that his legacy was something very important to him. >> and what do you know do you know about david petraeus' relationship with jill kelley, the woman who in a sense started all this because of what had been called harassing e-mails. >> a really interesting twist. the nature of that relationship appears to be a family friend. a government source says that kelley has been known to be on the washington social circuit.
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it's possible they had socialized here, but source say friends are describing her as feeling like she's an innocent victim in this and that a friend of petraeus' who spoke with him throughout the weekend and also today, erin, says that the general, the retired general has assisted to his friends that he only had one affair. only one other woman. >> suzanne is going to stay with us and let's tackle the big question tonight. who knew who and when about the affair and does the timing of his resignation add up? in the early summer, the fbi began an investigation. the late summer, high level official at the fbi and justice department were notified. that investigators uncovered what appeared to be an affair between petraeus and broadwell. now, according to the "wall street journal," eric holder is among those who were informed. now, october 21st through november 3rd, that's the first time fbi agents interviewed both broadwell and petraeus. then on october 31st -- notified
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cantor's office. he passed on the concerns to robert mueller. now, on november 2nd, the fbi said there's tho evidence petraeus committed a crime and they rule out charges, then it is election day when james clapper is first informed of the investigation. at 5:00 eastern standard time. he called petraeus and advised him to resign. it wasn't until after the election the president was notified and on november 9th, friday, he accepted the resignation. house and senate bell where she knows leaders are then informed. bob barrows also joins us and bob, let me ask you about this fbi investigation. it began in the early summer. the president was only informed after the election. his director of national intelligence informed at 5:00 on election day. congressional leaders were informed even after the
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resignation. leon panetta was asked about whether capitol hill should have been notified sooner and said, i want to quote, that's another issue we ought to look at because as former director of the cia and having worked closely with the intelligence committees, you know i believe there is a responsibility to make sure they're informed. did that guy handle this right? >> no. somebody dropped the ball. you never blind side the president. when a senior official in his administration under investigation when e-mails are being read, you inform the white house at a very high level. national security adviser. his council. even the president himself. you always do that. the it's a standing protocall inside the government. never blind side the president. >> do you think part of it had to do with the fact it was petraeus who was involved given the, his reputation and how many people looked up to him, admired
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him, the cult of petraeus as it's been called? >> fbi hates these sort of thipgs. they don't like to look into affairs. they like to deal in crimes that they can define and in this case, there wasn't a crime. suzanne was absolutely right. when they first saw this, they said, oh, my, stuff is getting leaked out. this woman is out there talking, quoting petraeus in denver, saying if you look at the rest of the transcript, it says david petraeus can't go to the press, but -- so they were probably very worried, so they went ahead with with it, but did not inform the white house as it's been reported, which is a huge mistake. >> talking about what happened in denver when broadwell was referring to libyans being held if libya, for the benghazi attacks, it's possible, right,
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that she may have had classified information. still, we don't know. >> right, i should also note to you that an intelligence official told us today, just adamant about that being false information. it would be a really big deal because the cia is not really allowed to detain people people. they lost that privilege in 2009, so to say that the cia is holding three people prisoner is huge. it's not like you're just going out there and saying the general likes to run every day. >> bob, what about -- go ahead. >> we have to parse this. the cia, it does not hold prisoners, but that compound in benghazi was more than the cia. there were several contracting groups. the pentagon. there was a military unit in the area at the time. it was not delta forces as reported. but there was a military unit. i've been assured they did not hold prisoners. maybe the libyans picked him up an accused, we just don't know. >> are we not going to get
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answers on the invest because of th this? some want him to, but -- >> you know, why would the cia have a fire base in benghazi, libya? why was it not better protected? why did we not know that whole base was ringed by al-qaeda related militias and why did this investigation start in the first place because a harassment complaint to the fbi just never goes any way unless it's comarried with another piece of information and we don't have what that is. it's sensitive and that's why we're asking so many questions. >> and we're going to keep asking them until we get answers and bob, thank you very much for taking the time and suzanne as well. still to come, more on the scandal. just who is paula broadwell. and how did she get so close to the director of the cia? plus, an "outfront" investigation into the red cross response to sandy.
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optimistic about a deal to avert the end of the year combination of an end of the year increase in tax rates and slash in spending. how exactly, now, we know there are a lot of meetings scheduled. tomorrow, with the labor community. wednesday, the business community and friday, there's a meeting with harry reid, mitch mcconnell, house speaker john boehner and nancy pelosi. so, will we get a deal? one man getting a lot of attention is erskine bowles.
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did you ever think your name would be part of pop culture? you are the bowles in simpson bowles. >> better be simpson bowles than bowles simpson since everybody knows him by his initials here in washington. >> so, when you talk about things, sacred cows, untouchables, whatever the word might be, in your proposal, the one paul ryan decided not to back, the one barack obama decided not to back, you had an increase in the federal gasoline tax. caps on mortgage interest. charitable donations and retirement contributions. these were all top choices. you also increased the eligibility age for medicare and social security. reduced benefits for wealthier seniors. some of those things average democrats and republicans say they agree on, other, they loathe them. is there anything that should be untouchable? >> the problems are real, no
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easy way out. we've got to come up with at least $4 trillion of deficit reduction and that's not the maximum amount we need to do is not even the ideal amount. reduce the deficit in order to stabilize the debt and get it on the path. >> it's interesting you say it that way. it's not the maximum, barely the minimum. bill gross from pimco says 16 trillion, which is not to be negative, but just to say people who think your plan is tough, it's getting us started on this path. it's not solving everything. >> absolutely. he's 100% right. i'd be a lot happier with 5 or 6 trillion because i think that's what we need in order to solve this problem long-term. >> why do you think we can get this done now when for ten years, it's been failure. >> i think this is truly the magic moment. we've got a second term democratic party who is willing to put entitlements op the
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table. we've got a republican speaker who really gets it, who understands the dangers we face and is willing to put revenue on the table. we've probably got as many as 50 members in the senate, equal number republicans and democrats who are for a ballots plan, but most importantly, what we have, we have this fiscal cliff, this crisis, which will really create chaos if we go the fiscal cliff and don't get a deal there after. i'm really worried about that. >> that brings me to something paul krugman wrote. the title is let's not make a deal. nothing bad will happen with the economy if the agreement isn't reached into 2013. so it's time to bargain. the stalemate would hurt republican backers every much as it hurt the rest of the country. as the risk of severe damage grew -- to cut a deal after all. a few months into next year? >> i think that's crazy.
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you know, why would you bet the country, really put bet the country but going over this fiscal cliff? if we go over this cliff, you'll see another 2 million people lose their jobs. the unemployment rate go up to say 9% and the rate of growth sloweded. we can go and immediately get a deal, that would be okay, but if we go over the cliff and don't get a deal right away, i think you're really going to create an enormous problem. >> now, on revenue, i know as part of plan, you assume bush tax rates would go up, loopholes would close, but is there room for compromise around how we define revenue? that if you were to close a lot of loopholes affecting the wealthy, but not increase the tax rates, would that be a deal you think could be struck or no?
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>> yes. i think it should be. what we should be concerned about is revenue and making sure revenue comes from the right sources. from people at the upper ends of the tax bracket and i think you can do that, even by raising rates or by broadening the base and simplifying the code and wiping oxford university these expenditures, particularly those w that go to upper income individuals. >> tim geithner's leaving at the end of the year. your name has been floated ferociously and furiously. would you like that job? >> if they'll move the treasury to charlotte i would, otherwise, i think i'm going to stay at home. >> move your domicile? >> i'd have to leave charlotte and i don't want to leave charlotte. i've been married 42 years. lived in the same town as my wife for 22. i think it's time for me to stay home for a while. >> all right, well thank you very much. we appreciate it. >> thank you so much. good to talk to you.
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americans largest private relief organization is facing growing criticism in response to sandy. despite raising more than $100 million for the victims, many across the northeast are still reeling and asking why. we asked susan candiotti to take a look and follow the millions in destinations pouring in for sandy relief. >> as the storm clean-up began, the man in charge of the besieged borough of staten island said he'd had enough with the american red cross. >> all these people making these big salaries should be out there on the front lines. i am disappointed. my advice to the people of staten island, do not go to the red cross. >> his outrage lasted only one day. he backed off his criticism
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soon, telling cnn that all was just fine. >> it was killing me. i spoke out. >> but his outburst it turns out wasn't the only assault on the red cross. a private charity that's considered the gold standard in american disaster relief. being asked again by generous americans. >> at the end of the day, there is little oversight in this whole system. >> he has a watchdog group calleded the disaster accountability project. salaries are very high. and they're tax filings prove it. its ceo receives over $500,000 annually. . >> they're run by their pr operation right now. they're putting on their best face, they don't want to invite scrutiny.
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>> teaming up with the american red cross. >> all those telethons on abc and nbc have helped raise nearly 120 million in donations for sandy relief and corporate commitments already pledged will elevate that total to nearly a quarter of a billion dollars according to smileowits. >> we understand that people get frustrated, we understand the criticisms. we know where they're coming from, but by and large what most people say to us is thank you. >> charity ratings organizations give the red cross high marks. on the ground, it's all about visibility. right here in the disaster zone, there are questions as well about the red cross and it effectiveness. are there enough volunteers. did they send out enough food trucks? where can you find them? how? we found mixed reviews. this woman says the red cross has been suhpesh.
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>> you know they're here. >> for a church group organizer also helping victims, a different take. steve, as you drive around donating supplies, how much of a red cross presence have you seen? >> very little. i've within talk ibeen talking they're telling us they're trying to get as many people out, but they're stretched very thin. >> the red cross is a huge institution and the leaders say it will cost the organization $100 million by the time all the numbers are in. in its appeals for sandy, the red cross insists every penny goes to storm victims, yet on its website, it says only that donations will go towards storms like sandy. >> let us know what you think of susan's excellent reporting. today, i went out to the rockaway. plus at the center of the david
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we start the second half of our show with stories we care
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about, where we focus on our reporting from the front lines and we start with iran's english language press tv. they say the country is conducting a series of military drills. the report says 8,000 troops will be involved. a professor tells us these exercises tend to be xanl rated. he says it's more of an exercise in communication between the dpard and other units. the drills come after iran fired an unmanned drone this month. it's been nearly a week since americans went to the polls and hey, the world's strongest democracy, some race, don't know who won. for the house, 194 democrats and 234 republicans. five races we still say are too close to call. democrats have a narrow lead in all of them right now. one is for florida's 18th district where patrick murphy declared a victory over alan
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west. a couple of weeks ago, you may recall we told you about a company recalling all their products because they had concerns. today, we know what the frk da found during those inspections. insects within ten feet of where sterile products were manufactured, walls that were cracked and a bird flying in a building where sterile products are stored. they were inspected because it's a sister company to the new england compounding center, that's the pharmacy whose steroid injections have been link to the meningitis outbreak that's killed 32 people. the international energy agency says the united states could pass saudi arabia to become a world's largest oil producer by 2020. that is pretty incredible. the agency says ten years after that, the united states could be an oil exporter. but yes, pigs are flying and
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here's the thing, right now, if you want to export u.s. crude oil, you have to cut through a lot of red tape. washington does not make it easy, no matter how lucrative it could be. we spoke to jamie webster. he says this will be an issue within the next 18 month. he says pressure will increase as we see light sweet crude inventories grow. all that money could help with this problem. it's been 466 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? exporting energy would help. so would a deal to keep us from falling over the fiscal cliff. and now, our fourth story "outfront." the woman behind the resignation of general david petraeus. tonight, there are growing questions about the 40-year-old biographer of general petraeus. cnn has learned the affair started two months after
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petraeus took over the cia, back in september of 2011 and ended about four months ago. chris lawrence on who she is. the woman at the heart of this investigation. >> holly petraeus and broadwell were separated by just five seats at david petraeus' confirmation hearing to become cia director. the affair wouldn't begin for another couple of months, but the attraction was there. a long time friend of petraeus says years in the war zone had left him isolated. petraeus didn't have anyone on his level he could talk to candidly, so when paula broadwell came along, quote, he enjoyed her company. she was an attractive gal and shed things in common, but the friend tells cnn, after the affair destroyed his career, he reflected on the relationship and came the realize broadwell may have been obsessed and perhaps felt she was warding off the competition and sending
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e-mails to petraeus family friend, jill kelley. broadwell is a west point grad like petraeus. she's appeared often on cnn, including several times on this program discussing security issues. >> sure, it's probably a signal, erin, that we do have visibility on what's beginning on on the ground there. >> petraeus cultivated smart, competitive people around him. in high school, she was student council president and value dick t and earn a ph.d. from harvard. she went to afghanistan when he took over the war and some close petraeus staffers couldn't understand why she got such unprecedented access, but headquarters is a cramped cluster of compartments where petraeus had little to know privacy. officials say nothing inappropriate happened while he
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was still in uniform. she was here in washington celebrating her birthday when this news broke wide open at the end of last week. in fact, one of the last postings on her twitter account is retweeting one of the rules of leadership by david petraeus. >> and i want to bring in three reporters who have been looking into the relationship between paula broadwell and general david petraeus. fred kaplin, he slates war stories columnist and author -- spencer ackerman is senior writer for wired and eli lake, senior national reporter for news week and t"the daily beas." i want to alert you, and spencer, "washington post" has just posted an op-ed by vernon lobe, who co-authored the book with broadwell. the first sentence, my wife says
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i'm the most coolest person in america. he says he had no idea about the affair even though he worked with her on this book for 16 months. what are you hearing now about when and how this started? >> a lot of what chris mentioned. a lot of people close to petraeus for a long time have found it strange that paula broadwell got to amount of access compared to her thin resu resume. but none really thought or were talking at the time, that there was an inappropriate relationship there. when the announcement came he was resigning, it seemed to ricochet quickly that it was probably mrs. broadwell. >> he writes there was no protege more ardent than broadwell. he talks about himself. he had only one contact. she had all the contact. they had a lot in common. >> she had said they met while
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she was in grad school at harvard and petraeus came to give a talk and she approached him afterwards, showing great interest. pau petraeus would be interested in cultivating as a possible protege. he was very much into mentoring. he came out of a tradition that social science department which cultivated relationships with with young men, positions for them to have, so it was not at all surprising that he found her attractive in that sense. initially. >> and what is your understanding as to when this started? it's very crucial for viewers who aren't aware, whether it was before or after he was at the ci ark. before, it's against the law in the military for him to have had an affair. at the cia, it would be different. >> that's true. that may be one reason why some of his friends are so adamant
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that it was after. i do know that there were a lot of people in kabul who were kind of disturbed at the kind of access that she was getting. and how she was traveling around with him a lot. going on early morning jogs with him a lot. being brought into meetings that, listen, petraeus got along with reporters. he liked cultivating reporters. >> he did with all of us. how quick ly he would respond t e-mails. >> first, he liked them, i guess, but then he saw it as information operations. this was to get the message out. but she was being treated on a level a little bit different. >> and eli, what is your understanding as to the security risk? because that's the big question here about this fbi investigation and we were talking about how the university of denver, she was recently speaking about how there could have been libyans held prisoner in benghazi relating to the
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benghazi attacks. if true, could have been classified inappropriate and a violation. what's your understanding as to what she might have known? >> the cia denies that claim, but the rest of that speech, she does speak as if she is almost speaking for david petraeus. and at times, kind of acting as a government official would, confirming things that were in press reports, discussing sensitive details. at the end of her answer on benghazi, she says as a former official, i'm saddened to see so many sources and methods disclosed in that sense, so one thing that always happens when you're looking at an investigation after something like this, there is a process to determine whether any information was inappropriately disclosed and if there were lots of conversations with paula broadwell, she may have had the clearances to hear that, but if
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she shares that makes, that would present a lot of problems. >> in terms of when this started, you write about an incident at a wedding. >> it seems that at a wedding of some prominent aides to petraeus, there was some concern i should say also former aide to petraeus and people sort of in that circle. there was some concern about the propriety of their relationship. there was some concern about some seeming closeness between the two of them. yet it's difficult to find people who thought this was in fact something more than what it appeared like. the close mentoring relationship that fred described and as eli is talking about, an absolutely crucial question going forward is what information even if she's acting like an unofficial conduit for petraeus, who whom she mentioned can't speak publicly as head of the cia, might have been passed to her.
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at what point do people involved in this investigation as we found have since gone to congress and been motivated with that concern. >> so many questions and these are the three reporters answering so many of them. next, flood waters take over venice. tonight, the majority of the italian city is under water. today, i spent the day on the rockaways, a neighborhood in queens where half the people live under poverty and have been pipeded out by the storm. >> we need help. let's say you want to get ahead in your career.
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we're back with tonight's outer circle and we go to venice tonight, where nearly three quarters f the city is under water. reuters reports flooding reached five feet. that's the sixth highest level in 140 years. >> well, erin, the canals of venice make it one of the most romantic cities in the world, but also one of the wettest. take a look at these pictures. about 70% of the city is reportedly under water after it was battered by storms and the water levels rose by more than five feet more than normal. in fact, tourists were seen literally swimming in some of
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the city's most famous piazzas and wooden walkways had to be built to help get around the city. the city is actually sinking by about two millimeters a year. and it's become such a chronic problem that locals have a special word for it. aqua alta, which means high water, erin. >> thanks very much. and now, let's check in with anderson. >> on the program, who knew what and most importantly tonight, when did they know it? fbi officials reportedly knew for months about the affair. the president wasn't told neither were congressional leaders, until after election day. we're trying to look for answers tonight. peter king is, too. he'll be joining us. we'll also speak with general petraeus' spokesman in iraq. also ahead, a full two weeks after superstorm sandy levelled
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part of the east coast, there are still 60,000 people without power in new york. they've spent the last 14 days with no electricity, no heat. some without phone service. pretty unthinkable. one group that opened its doors, st. john's episcopal in the rockaways. they may now be out millions of dollars for doing the right thing and of course, we remember veterans day tonight. >> thank you very much. our fifth story, still in the dark. as flights come in from around the world from people going to manhattan to jfk, they fly over where we were today, landing in the dark. a community desperate for help. >> milk, juices, cookies. there will always be a clothes drive. >> each day, the line outside the thriftway in far rockaway forms early. >> there are elderly who cannot leave their homes.
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if you can get one to them, i would appreciate it. >> people here wait for hours. not for gas, but for food, water and clothing. a wait that can sometimes be in vain. >> we've been out here for going on three hours now, waiting for this truck that's supposed to have been coming here today at 11:00.120,000 people, the rockaway peninsula is struggling as thousands are still without power, including stores, restaurants and banks. for those who live in a high-rise like this one, they have to walk up 20 flights of stairs. more than half the population lives below the poverty line here and most are just trying to get by. 17-year-old william sampson waited more than three hours with his grandmother to get food for seven people. >> what are things you wish were different right now? >> i wish for everybody to come together, help each other out, bring supplies you're not needing to give to other people, help the disabled, help the elderly, just help anybody. come out and help. >> with no power, it isn't safe
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to go out after dark but william says even the gangs have called a truce. >> they all called a truce. they are all actually helping out other people because there's nothing bad you can do in a storm right now. it's already bad as is, so might as well just call a truce, come together, help out. >> alene comes here five days a week to get supplies for her grandchildren, all in wheelchairs with muscular dystrophy. >> my grandkids haven't been home yet because they're all in wheelchairs and they can't come home because we have no lights. since the storm. we have no one to help us. >> the task is daunting. many small groups are cobbling together help, like this medical truck from kansas. people like nia garson is here to help distribute up to 10,000 meals a day donated by a local food company and the red cross. her energy seems bottomless and she has a reason. >> you never know. it could always be you. you know?
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you just give back. it could be anybody. >> the people in the rockaway peninsula are a close-knit community. local churches are really central to the communities there. many churches were destroyed like st. john's baptist church and it's hard because of the separation of church and state. fema isn't allowed to help the churches and they're the bedrock of where people are turning for help. congressman gregory meeks was baptized at that church and i asked him and pastor j.d. williams how long it's going to take the community to recover. >> it's going to be a long time. this is a symbol of what it is. we are here at st. john's baptist church and it's going to take this church, which is an institution in the community, a long time to get itself back on its feet. it was devastated by this storm. you just look inside and you'll see complete destruction. it's going to take months upon months upon months to get it back together again. >> pastor, this is the largest
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church here on the peninsula. >> on the peninsula. and we have 15 employees, we did. we have a day care, ministry. the church is open seven days a week doing the weekdays from monday to friday from 6:00 until 6:00, and now these employees of our church are without a job. the bottom has been completely destroyed. six feet of water destroyed -- >> this bus, right, this is your bus. went all the way up into the actual bus? >> the van, the air condition system is gone. the boiler system is gone. everything that's in the church on the lower level was under six feet of water. >> so how are you going to get that back? how do you get that back? you don't have a wealthy congregation. >> well, we don't. i'm appealing to the ministers in our state convention and in
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our association. we are asking our congregation to go out and ask people for donations to restore our day care so that we can at some time in the future have the day care back in session again. >> what will you do then? >> a couple days, a mother came by the church. she wanted food. we had food here and supplies, and she said pastor, can i just lay on the floor. i have a roof over my head. i said well, it's cold here. she said but i don't have a home and that really touched me, and this is not just an isolated case. these are people like that that are desperate. >> if you had to say what you need the most to have it not feel abandoned, not feel overlooked. what do you need? >> right now, we don't need any more food or water, per se.
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in the hard-hit area of the rockaways we met william sampson. he's 17 and was helping his grandmother get supplies. during our conversation he talked a lot about the gangs that have taken ahold of his community and i asked him if he joined one. >> i'm in no gang. i'm a good boy. >> he has a good plan and we discussed that plan today. >> i'm planning to go in the marines first for computer analysis but yeah, after the military, i do my 20 years, i'm going straight into itt tech for more advanced computer technology. >> you're planning for the military and at


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